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This is Fortress On A Hill, with Henri, Danny, Kaygan,
Don:Jo vonni, Shiloh, and Monisha
Jovanni:Welcome everyone to Fortress On A Hill, a podcast about U.
Jovanni:S.
Jovanni:foreign policy, anti imperialism, skepticism, and American way of war.
Jovanni:I'm Jovanni.
Jovanni:Thank you for joining us today.
Jovanni:Today we will be discussing something different.
Jovanni:We will be touching on how America's pathological obsession with maintaining
Jovanni:hegemony and empire abroad is having itself out with the people of the
Jovanni:United States paying the price.
Jovanni:There are deep contradictions happening in the U.
Jovanni:S.
Jovanni:that our leaders willfully continue to ignore and leave in neglect
Jovanni:because they are more concerned with dominating other peoples abroad.
Jovanni:This is manifesting in the current political crisis we are in.
Jovanni:The crisis in infrastructure, with crumbling bridges,
Jovanni:roads, tunnels, and dams.
Jovanni:According to the American Society of Civil Engineers, America
Jovanni:gets a C in infrastructure.
Jovanni:The report says that 43 percent of U.
Jovanni:S.
Jovanni:roads and highways, as well as tens of thousands of bridges, were
Jovanni:in poor or mediocre condition.
Jovanni:Public transit system earning a D minus.
Jovanni:Here in Texas, we had a collapse in the power grid back in 2021, creating
Jovanni:a blackout for days during a winter storm that affected 4 million homes and
Jovanni:killed an estimated amount of 200 Texans.
Jovanni:Turn out that our power grid is ran by a private company called Electric
Jovanni:Reliability, reliability Council of Texas or Ercot, and they had, they hadn't
Jovanni:upgraded the system since the 1980s.
Jovanni:There is also the healthcare crisis, which are taking many Americans into
Jovanni:bankruptcy, the healthcare insurance crisis that each year the cost keeps
Jovanni:rising while giving less coverage.
Jovanni:That is, if you have healthcare insurance at all.
Jovanni:A housing crisis.
Jovanni:Homelessness across America has risen 12%, yet there are more empty houses in
Jovanni:America than there are homeless people.
Jovanni:Indeed, less than 3 percent of the federal budget can end poverty in the U.
Jovanni:S., yet our leadership would rather see it fester and invest money elsewhere.
Jovanni:We are in an election year, which is pure spectacle and with no substance.
Jovanni:The duopoly aren't promising the American people nothing of value.
Jovanni:The Dems are saying both were made to keep Donald Trump out of office.
Jovanni:And the Reps are saying Dems are a bunch of crooks and will
Jovanni:make America great again 2.
Jovanni:0.
Jovanni:But They don't tell you, but I guess we'll just figure it out later.
Jovanni:But it sounds good though.
Jovanni:Both are promises to keep funding wars overseas and attacking other nations.
Jovanni:However, which is the only way Which is the only promise they will keep.
Jovanni:Meanwhile, the American people will keep working themselves to exhaustion with
Jovanni:little to show for, just a cycle of death.
Jovanni:So, I brought to, I brought in a friend to share her story of daily struggle.
Jovanni:Like most Americans, she continued to grind on a daily basis while
Jovanni:tackling challenges that could be made easier for her if, indeed,
Jovanni:we live in a democracy and had a government that attended to its people.
Jovanni:Here, here I am with my friend, who will use Mia to maintain her How are you today?
Mia:I am doing good.
Mia:Good morning.
Jovanni:Well, thank you for coming and, taking some of your
Jovanni:time, to share your story with us.
Jovanni:So, tell us a little bit about yourself.
Mia:Well, I am, going through a lot, but I am maintaining some way, somehow.
Mia:I'm in my mid thirties.
Mia:I used to do hair.
Mia:I was a hair stylist for many years.
Mia:And as of right now, since my diagnosis about three years ago, it's been a little
Mia:hard, so I'm having to do different side jobs here and there just to make
Mia:money, but under the table, so to speak.
Mia:But, I'm making some crafts, baking here and there, just
Mia:to get by and still maintain
Mia:My health coverage that I have.
Jovanni:can you share a little bit about that, about the
Jovanni:health coverage that you have?
Jovanni:And, why do you, have to go through all that?
Mia:Yeah, back in 2020, I had gotten diagnosed with lung cancer.
Mia:I didn't have insurance at the time.
Mia:My options were to get on Emergency Care Link just to get my diagnosis, see what
Mia:level I was at, they had found a tumor, so I got Emergency Care Link to get my biopsy
Mia:done and to get to my cancer doctor.
Mia:after Emergency Care Link ended, because I only had it for about a month, I was
Mia:told that I had to get Insurance, whether I pay out of pocket or I could apply
Mia:for disability Medicaid at the time.
Mia:I started calling around to different insurances, but since I was coming
Mia:in with a pre existing condition, the monthly rate was extremely high.
Mia:And I then tried to apply for Medicaid disability and I got approved for it,
Mia:but since I was approved for the Medicaid disability, I was forced to have to quit.
Mia:my career, I was working as a hairstylist for many, many years,
Mia:and, it was one or the other.
Mia:And at this point, my hands are tied, you know, my health is where it's at.
Mia:And if I'm needing to do treatments and visits and scans every couple of
Mia:months and treatments every month, doctor visits every other month.
Mia:You know, money wise, it's how am I going to make it?
Mia:So I went with having to quit my job, my main career.
Mia:And yeah, it's been a journey.
Mia:It's definitely been a journey.
Jovanni:so what is the emergency care link?
Mia:So I didn't have insurance at the time.
Mia:Right.
Mia:And when I was paying, I had paid out of pocket initially
Mia:to get a visit with the doctor.
Mia:I think that one was like 300 just to see, I believe it was a nurse practitioner.
Mia:Cause I went in on a weekend and, they just checked my vitals Checked my lungs,
Mia:told me to breathe in and out, heard some fluid in there, and they just assumed
Mia:that I had pneumonia, so they gave me antibiotics for two weeks, and then I went
Mia:back and had to pay again for the checkup, Yeah, it definitely adds up, you know.
Mia:So then after that, they were like, no, you still have fluid.
Mia:So then I had to do a CT scan, had to charge that on my credit card.
Mia:That was about seven to eight hundred dollars.
Mia:CT scan showed that I had a mass.
Mia:So then from there, they were like, no, you know, we need
Mia:to get you in for a biopsy.
Mia:So emergency care link, you had to go in, fill out paperwork, you had to show them.
Mia:How much you're paying for all your bills.
Mia:You have to, you know, give them proof of employment.
Mia:I went in with the information from the two doctor visits that I was
Mia:currently going through health issues.
Mia:They found a mass.
Mia:So with them finding the mass and me having that on paperwork, It allowed me
Mia:to get the emergency care link because it showed like, Hey, something's going on.
Mia:And it wasn't just like, Oh, she needs to go in for like a small visit.
Mia:Like, it was like, No, there's something there.
Mia:I didn't have insurance.
Mia:So they granted me the emergency care link.
Mia:yeah.
Mia:Had it only for 30 days.
Mia:So within the 30 days, it was stressful.
Mia:I had to keep calling, calling, calling just to get in to a primary care doctor.
Mia:From that primary care doctor, I had to explain my whole situation again.
Mia:And I was like, look, this is what's going on.
Mia:Last month, I had went in for this.
Mia:My symptoms started with this.
Mia:Here's my CT images.
Mia:Once he saw my CT images, he was like, oh no, next day they called
Mia:me, they're like, no, we're going to get you in with the lung specialist.
Mia:So then I went in with the lung specialist, they saw my CT images,
Mia:they were like, no, we need to get you in with the biopsy.
Mia:after about three and a half weeks, I finally was able to get into the hospital
Mia:and they were able to do my biopsy.
Mia:But it was just very stressful because it's like, I found something,
Mia:you know, they found something and it's just, who's going to help me?
Mia:How fast can I get seen?
Mia:And the stress of not having the money to pay for the insurance and
Mia:only having 30 days with CareLink.
Jovanni:it's only for 30 days.
Mia:no, it's not only for 30 days, but the emergency Care Link,
Mia:they only grant it for 30 days.
Mia:you can have Care Link and, you'll get seen.
Mia:They have their primary doctors and specialty doctors within
Mia:their network, but they bill you and go based off of your income.
Mia:So then you just have to pay a monthly payment until you pay all of that off.
Mia:if you stay on CareLink, You can get seen, but appointments take longer to
Mia:get in, you only have a select range of specialty doctors, in my situation,
Mia:since my diagnosis was a little bit more severe, they told me It wasn't
Mia:recommended to stay on Carelink because I was going to be on a journey with
Mia:treatments and doctors and scans
Mia:And those scans are pricey.
Mia:I mean, one of my scans that I do every few months are about 18, 000 and 19, 000.
Mia:My treatments alone are about 18, 000 a month.
Mia:So they didn't recommend Carelink because it was just going to
Mia:be way too much for me to pay.
Mia:Right.
Mia:And then I couldn't pay if I, you know, how was I going to be working
Mia:and having to pay that and then just trying to survive and pay
Mia:bills and keep a roof over my head.
Jovanni:Yeah, and my understanding is that CareLake is a program that's only
Jovanni:available for residents in the city you're in, or in the county you're in.
Mia:yeah.
Jovanni:Available for people outside of the county and like I
Jovanni:said, It's not a universal program.
Jovanni:It's a program that's in your county.
Jovanni:And like you said, they only have a selective range of doctors
Jovanni:that will accept Care Link.
Jovanni:and, yeah, you know, and like, you know, that just manifests, just, just go to show
Jovanni:that the healthcare system that we live in is a healthcare system that is for profit.
Jovanni:healthcare system that is to treat people it's not a healthcare system
Jovanni:to prevent illness, it's a healthcare system to extract wealth, you know,
Mia:Yeah, you
Jovanni:know, from people.
Jovanni:so how does that, affect the, you know, this, your conditions, how does
Jovanni:it affect you, like your aspiration?
Mia:Oh, Lordy, it affects it a lot.
Mia:And I would have never known, you know, I've always heard, you know, that this is
Mia:some, It's not right, or it's messed up, or it's rigged, and I never understood
Mia:it until now currently going through it.
Mia:So now, because of my condition, and because I'm relying on the state's
Mia:Medicaid slash Medicare to cover my scans, cover my treatment, help cover
Mia:my doctor visits, I can no longer work.
Mia:And if I do work, then I'm afraid of them taking my insurance away.
Jovanni:What would they do?
Mia:I'm sorry?
Jovanni:Why would they do that?
Mia:Because according to them, if I work, then they see me as like, Oh, she's fine.
Mia:Oh, she doesn't need the help.
Mia:She, she can work.
Mia:She can pay for her own insurance.
Mia:And it's like, not fully, you know, I have side effects from my treatments, fatigue.
Mia:it's been hard because before my diagnosis.
Mia:Yeah, I had plans to open up a business.
Mia:I had bigger goals in mind.
Mia:And now since my diagnosis and I'm relying on the Medicaid or Medicare
Mia:to get me by, I can't do nothing.
Mia:I feel like my life is on hold.
Mia:I can't apply for Apartments that I would like to live in on a better side of
Mia:town, I'm restricted to where I can live, basically, because I can't, I can't work.
Mia:I can't show that I make two to three times the rent because
Mia:I'm depending on this insurance to help me get my treatment.
Mia:So it's like, what do I do, you know?
Mia:Try to work two, three jobs just to make insurance so I can live on the side of
Mia:town that I want, or put my health first.
Mia:But if I put my health first, you know, then my life is on hold.
Mia:So, yeah, it's, it's a bummer.
Mia:I mean, I would love to work.
Mia:I would love to pursue school.
Mia:I would love to pursue my, open up my business.
Mia:But everything, I feel stuck.
Mia:And that's the hard part.
Jovanni:Yeah, I mean, you're not alone.
Jovanni:like I said, in this country, there's more priority is given to overseas adventures.
Jovanni:Both parties, which they have a monopoly on a political system.
Jovanni:would rather spend, squander money abroad to control other people.
Jovanni:, uh, overseas to control other people, to dictate to other people
Jovanni:how, what systems they should have, how they should live, et cetera.
Jovanni:Um, to destroy the nations and then then spend money to rebuild them again.
Jovanni:you know?
Jovanni:Yeah.
Jovanni:Um, this, um, and I'm bringing this up 'cause this is a, this
Jovanni:is a, uh, uh, a veteran podcast.
Jovanni:So it's relevant to what you're, to what you're sharing with us here
Jovanni:because, um, you know, just to throw some numbers around, uh, most of the
Jovanni:people who listens to us are veterans.
Jovanni:In this podcast, most, um, many of them are veterans of the, of the
Jovanni:Iraq war, Afghan war, or some older veterans from back in the Vietnam era.
Jovanni:Um, you know, and there's, there's still money being spent on, on those
Jovanni:overseas ventures that weren't necessary.
Jovanni:They weren't, they weren't, they weren't needed, you know, just because, just
Jovanni:to expand American power abroad, um, at the, at the, uh, the cost or at
Jovanni:the, uh, of the American people here.
Jovanni:You know, um, just like in the Iraq war, the, uh, just throw some numbers
Jovanni:around the Iraq war and, and the Afghanistan war cost, uh, 46 trillion.
Jovanni:And it's still, and it's still counting.
Jovanni:Um, and the Syrian war, the war in Syria, which is more recent, um, and
Jovanni:the Iraq war part three, it cost 2.
Jovanni:8 trillion.
Jovanni:Um, it's still, it's still counting.
Jovanni:The Ukraine war, um, up to this point, they have sent over a
Jovanni:hundred billion dollars to Ukraine to maintain that war over there.
Jovanni:Um, and, and now with the, the slaughter and the genocides happening in, in
Jovanni:Israel, uh, the United States government is spending, uh, 17 billion dollars,
Jovanni:uh, to keep that going, you know.
Jovanni:Um, there's a huge contradiction, there's a huge contradiction.
Jovanni:Meanwhile, you know, average Americans like yourself, you
Jovanni:know, they're on a grind.
Jovanni:They have to struggle every day, you know, working six, seven days a week,
Jovanni:you know, just to make ends meet.
Mia:Yeah.
Mia:Yeah.
Jovanni:Now, when you're, you're Now with your conditions kind of kneecapped
Jovanni:you, kneecapped you to, um, to, to get ahead and, and you still have
Jovanni:responsibilities apart from that.
Jovanni:You still have family responsibilities that you still got to attend to that,
Jovanni:you know, that, uh, that, yeah, you know, you're being, you're being stretched thin.
Jovanni:And like you, millions of Americans are going through the same thing.
Jovanni:Um, you know, you have, you have your, you're fortunate that you
Jovanni:have a family network that, that supports you, but other people don't.
Jovanni:You know, you found, you found a system, uh, you found somethings that, that can
Jovanni:help you, but what would have happened if you wouldn't, uh, qualify for Medicaid?
Jovanni:Um, you know.
Mia:Yeah, if I didn't, if I didn't qualify, oh lord, I would really
Mia:have to work, I would say at least three jobs to pay the insurance
Mia:costs on top of my living expenses because there would just be no way.
Mia:I mean, they were quoting me.
Mia:Man, seven, eight hundred dollars a month on some insurances because every
Mia:insurance I caught and I was telling them my situation, they're like, oh no, you
Mia:have a pre existing condition and then the type of pre existing condition and it was
Mia:just so heartbreaking because I'm like, man, you know, I'm already going through
Mia:a lot to hear about my diagnosis and then I'm calling to get help and it's like,
Mia:oh, well you have this, oh no, well we can help you but at this price and if I'm.
Mia:You know, living by myself, I'm the only one providing for myself, paying
Mia:all the bills, all the expenses that go in just living and surviving, and
Mia:then to have an additional payment, and then to not even be able to work fully
Mia:because you're tired, because you have the side effects from my treatment.
Mia:It's very discouraging, it's very hard, but I would have to
Mia:find a way to work at least three jobs to make that extra income.
Mia:Because the income prior that I was, that I was doing my, my hairstylist
Mia:career, it was enough to, to live.
Mia:But now to pay extra expenses or pay out of pocket at doctor visits, like,
Mia:where would I be getting that money?
Mia:You know, that, and me having to work at least three jobs.
Mia:I'm estimating just to cover all that, like, that would take away time from my
Mia:family, take away time from, you know, raising my nieces, and I feel like I
Mia:would just lose all the way around.
Jovanni:Have you, have you, um, have you looked into, um, Um, the
Jovanni:Affordable Care Act, you know, do you, do you qualify for that or anything?
Jovanni:You
Mia:know, I did, and um, I didn't qualify for that.
Mia:You
Jovanni:didn't qualify for that?
Jovanni:No.
Jovanni:Why?
Mia:Because, um, I, my, my pre existing condition, I didn't qualify.
Mia:Like, you could get it if you didn't have nothing wrong with you.
Mia:Hmm.
Mia:Yeah.
Jovanni:I
Mia:was so upset because I was just like, man, like, I thought I was here to help.
Jovanni:Exactly, they marketed it as like, it was like the best
Jovanni:thing since sliced bread, right?
Jovanni:But there was so Yeah.
Jovanni:And then
Mia:I was hearing from other friends that those that did try to get
Mia:the Affordable Care Act, a lot of doctors didn't accept the insurance.
Mia:So it's like they, them too, were also left with like a few.
Mia:A small range of doctors to choose from, or a small range of specialty
Mia:doctors, so it's like, it only helped them to a certain extent.
Mia:Yeah, so that was a bummer, a big bummer.
Jovanni:Yeah, I mean, I mean, other nations, I mean, the United States is the,
Jovanni:the, the wealthiest country in the world.
Jovanni:Americans are, are roughly 5% of the global population.
Jovanni:Right.
Jovanni:Uh, but we dominate at least over 25% of, uh, we consume over
Jovanni:25% of the world's resources.
Jovanni:Right.
Jovanni:So we, so we consume more resource, you know, we, we generate
Jovanni:more, more wealth, uh, than any country in the world of our size.
Jovanni:Right.
Jovanni:You know?
Jovanni:Mm-Hmm.
Jovanni:. Yet, yet the wealth, uh, that we generate, which comes to which,
Jovanni:which wealth is wealth, is.
Jovanni:It's transferable, it's transferred, right?
Jovanni:And wealth comes from, from, from labor.
Jovanni:That's where wealth comes from, right?
Jovanni:You know, we talk about Jeff Bezos and all these people, right?
Jovanni:But, you know, he owns Amazon, but Amazon wouldn't be able to do anything
Jovanni:if it wasn't for people laboring, moving around and stuff like that.
Jovanni:So that's where, that's where Jeff Bezos wealth comes from.
Jovanni:It comes from the people that are down in the warehouses, that are
Jovanni:moving stuff around for him, that are delivering packages and stuff.
Jovanni:That's where wealth comes from.
Jovanni:It comes from labor.
Jovanni:You know, not just because this person had a big, great idea, right?
Jovanni:Labor comes, that's what, that's where it comes from.
Jovanni:So we have all this wealth.
Jovanni:This country generates all this wealth.
Jovanni:Yet, uh, the priority, um, in, in every election is to cut taxes, right?
Jovanni:Now taxes, when you cut taxes, like Donald Trump, for example,
Jovanni:his last administration, right, he, he did the largest, um, uh,
Jovanni:tax cut, you know, in, in history.
Jovanni:Right.
Jovanni:And that's usually marketed to us as a good thing because we got less
Jovanni:taxes coming on and stuff like that.
Jovanni:But what happens is, right, that, that it hollows.
Jovanni:It puts the country at a deficit and it hollows the country out.
Jovanni:So the country still needs funds to function.
Jovanni:Where do they get the funds from, right?
Jovanni:They will start, they cut services to get the funds to maintain the, uh, the,
Jovanni:the, how the government, how the, uh, the country operates to pay salaries,
Jovanni:et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, right?
Jovanni:That means that poor people or working class people, right,
Jovanni:get less of the services, right?
Jovanni:Every time there, every time tax get cut to the, to the most wealthiest among us.
Jovanni:That's just one example, right?
Jovanni:And there are countries that are less wealthier than the Americans,
Jovanni:the United States, right?
Jovanni:But yet they have a health care system that covers everybody, you know?
Jovanni:People are less sicker than we are.
Jovanni:Um, so yeah, it's a big, huge contradictions that we're living in,
Jovanni:and yep, most people aren't aware, most people are still captivated by the
Jovanni:two party system, you know, they argue against each other because, you know,
Jovanni:I support, um, the Dems and I support the Reps, you know, but when it comes
Jovanni:down to it, both All these parties are working against their constituents,
Jovanni:working against their own people.
Mia:Definitely, I agree with that.
Mia:And I just don't understand why so much money is getting sent for here, for that,
Mia:for wars when we have so many people here in the United States that just need help.
Jovanni:Exactly.
Mia:They simply just need a little help.
Mia:And it's like, how are we getting turned down?
Mia:How are we having to live so restricted?
Mia:And yet there's so much money going elsewhere.
Mia:It's sad.
Jovanni:So Mia, so how do, um, what do you see yourself now?
Jovanni:How do we, how do we go from there?
Mia:How do I see myself now?
Mia:I'm just hoping to get over this, over this diagnosis so I don't have
Mia:to be handicapped by the system.
Mia:I want to get back to working.
Mia:I want to be able to go open my business.
Mia:and just live without feeling afraid of like losing something that I so need.
Mia:So yeah, I'm just, I'm hoping and I'm praying to get over this one day.
Jovanni:Yeah, well, and I mean, and, and what you're, what you're
Jovanni:needing, what you're asking is not something, um, astronomical.
Jovanni:It's something basic, you know.
Mia:Yeah.
Jovanni:Right to live, right?
Mia:Yes.
Mia:You're, you're,
Jovanni:you're, you're, you're.
Jovanni:You're born and raised a citizen of this country, right?
Jovanni:You deserve to, to, to be, um, you know, to be franchised, to be put,
Jovanni:to be a part of this, you know, this country, and, you know, and the people
Jovanni:that you put up there, they're supposed to be there to represent you, right?
Jovanni:They're supposed to take care of you.
Jovanni:Um, to, to, to not necessarily take care of you, that has a negative connotation
Jovanni:in the United States, but to pretty much attend the, uh, to represent you.
Jovanni:Represent your, represent your needs and represent your, um,
Jovanni:um, you know, your well being.
Jovanni:Yes.
Jovanni:Um, yeah, thank you, um, for sharing.
Jovanni:Thank
Mia:you for having me.
Jovanni:Um, any, any last comments, um, that you would
Jovanni:like to share before we depart?
Mia:You know, I would just like to say to anybody who's in my
Mia:situation to not give up and just stay positive, even when it's hard.
Jovanni:Exactly.
Jovanni:Even when
Mia:it's hard there, there will be a way to get out of it.
Jovanni:Absolutely.
Jovanni:Absolutely.
Jovanni:Thank you.
Jovanni:Thank you, Mia.
Jovanni:Stay positive.
Mia:Thank you.
Jovanni:You'll get through this.
Jovanni:Um, I'm very, you know, very, um, you know, um, yeah, yeah, I am very,
Jovanni:um, know that you'll, that you'll, you'll get through this and, uh,
Jovanni:yeah, look forward to, uh, talking to you again, um, seeing you again.
Mia:Definitely.
Mia:Thank you.
Mia:I appreciate it.
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