The real cost of empire - Ep 157
Fortress On A Hill (FOH) PodcastJuly 30, 2024x
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The real cost of empire - Ep 157

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This is Fortress On A Hill, with Henri, Danny, Kaygan,

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Jo vonni, Shiloh, and Monisha

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Welcome everyone to Fortress On A Hill, a podcast about U.

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S.

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foreign policy, anti imperialism, skepticism, and American way of war.

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I'm Jovanni.

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Thank you for joining us today.

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Today we will be discussing something different.

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We will be touching on how America's pathological obsession with maintaining

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hegemony and empire abroad is having itself out with the people of the

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United States paying the price.

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There are deep contradictions happening in the U.

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S.

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that our leaders willfully continue to ignore and leave in neglect

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because they are more concerned with dominating other peoples abroad.

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This is manifesting in the current political crisis we are in.

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The crisis in infrastructure, with crumbling bridges,

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roads, tunnels, and dams.

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According to the American Society of Civil Engineers, America

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gets a C in infrastructure.

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The report says that 43 percent of U.

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S.

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roads and highways, as well as tens of thousands of bridges, were

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in poor or mediocre condition.

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Public transit system earning a D minus.

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Here in Texas, we had a collapse in the power grid back in 2021, creating

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a blackout for days during a winter storm that affected 4 million homes and

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killed an estimated amount of 200 Texans.

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Turn out that our power grid is ran by a private company called Electric

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Reliability, reliability Council of Texas or Ercot, and they had, they hadn't

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upgraded the system since the 1980s.

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There is also the healthcare crisis, which are taking many Americans into

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bankruptcy, the healthcare insurance crisis that each year the cost keeps

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rising while giving less coverage.

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That is, if you have healthcare insurance at all.

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A housing crisis.

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Homelessness across America has risen 12%, yet there are more empty houses in

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America than there are homeless people.

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Indeed, less than 3 percent of the federal budget can end poverty in the U.

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S., yet our leadership would rather see it fester and invest money elsewhere.

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We are in an election year, which is pure spectacle and with no substance.

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The duopoly aren't promising the American people nothing of value.

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The Dems are saying both were made to keep Donald Trump out of office.

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And the Reps are saying Dems are a bunch of crooks and will

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make America great again 2.

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0.

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But They don't tell you, but I guess we'll just figure it out later.

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But it sounds good though.

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Both are promises to keep funding wars overseas and attacking other nations.

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However, which is the only way Which is the only promise they will keep.

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Meanwhile, the American people will keep working themselves to exhaustion with

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little to show for, just a cycle of death.

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So, I brought to, I brought in a friend to share her story of daily struggle.

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Like most Americans, she continued to grind on a daily basis while

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tackling challenges that could be made easier for her if, indeed,

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we live in a democracy and had a government that attended to its people.

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Here, here I am with my friend, who will use Mia to maintain her How are you today?

Mia:

I am doing good.

Mia:

Good morning.

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Well, thank you for coming and, taking some of your

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time, to share your story with us.

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So, tell us a little bit about yourself.

Mia:

Well, I am, going through a lot, but I am maintaining some way, somehow.

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I'm in my mid thirties.

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I used to do hair.

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I was a hair stylist for many years.

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And as of right now, since my diagnosis about three years ago, it's been a little

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hard, so I'm having to do different side jobs here and there just to make

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money, but under the table, so to speak.

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But, I'm making some crafts, baking here and there, just

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to get by and still maintain

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My health coverage that I have.

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can you share a little bit about that, about the

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health coverage that you have?

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And, why do you, have to go through all that?

Mia:

Yeah, back in 2020, I had gotten diagnosed with lung cancer.

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I didn't have insurance at the time.

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My options were to get on Emergency Care Link just to get my diagnosis, see what

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level I was at, they had found a tumor, so I got Emergency Care Link to get my biopsy

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done and to get to my cancer doctor.

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after Emergency Care Link ended, because I only had it for about a month, I was

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told that I had to get Insurance, whether I pay out of pocket or I could apply

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for disability Medicaid at the time.

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I started calling around to different insurances, but since I was coming

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in with a pre existing condition, the monthly rate was extremely high.

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And I then tried to apply for Medicaid disability and I got approved for it,

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but since I was approved for the Medicaid disability, I was forced to have to quit.

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my career, I was working as a hairstylist for many, many years,

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and, it was one or the other.

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And at this point, my hands are tied, you know, my health is where it's at.

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And if I'm needing to do treatments and visits and scans every couple of

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months and treatments every month, doctor visits every other month.

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You know, money wise, it's how am I going to make it?

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So I went with having to quit my job, my main career.

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And yeah, it's been a journey.

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It's definitely been a journey.

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so what is the emergency care link?

Mia:

So I didn't have insurance at the time.

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Right.

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And when I was paying, I had paid out of pocket initially

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to get a visit with the doctor.

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I think that one was like 300 just to see, I believe it was a nurse practitioner.

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Cause I went in on a weekend and, they just checked my vitals Checked my lungs,

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told me to breathe in and out, heard some fluid in there, and they just assumed

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that I had pneumonia, so they gave me antibiotics for two weeks, and then I went

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back and had to pay again for the checkup, Yeah, it definitely adds up, you know.

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So then after that, they were like, no, you still have fluid.

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So then I had to do a CT scan, had to charge that on my credit card.

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That was about seven to eight hundred dollars.

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CT scan showed that I had a mass.

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So then from there, they were like, no, you know, we need

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to get you in for a biopsy.

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So emergency care link, you had to go in, fill out paperwork, you had to show them.

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How much you're paying for all your bills.

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You have to, you know, give them proof of employment.

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I went in with the information from the two doctor visits that I was

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currently going through health issues.

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They found a mass.

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So with them finding the mass and me having that on paperwork, It allowed me

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to get the emergency care link because it showed like, Hey, something's going on.

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And it wasn't just like, Oh, she needs to go in for like a small visit.

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Like, it was like, No, there's something there.

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I didn't have insurance.

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So they granted me the emergency care link.

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yeah.

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Had it only for 30 days.

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So within the 30 days, it was stressful.

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I had to keep calling, calling, calling just to get in to a primary care doctor.

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From that primary care doctor, I had to explain my whole situation again.

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And I was like, look, this is what's going on.

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Last month, I had went in for this.

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My symptoms started with this.

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Here's my CT images.

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Once he saw my CT images, he was like, oh no, next day they called

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me, they're like, no, we're going to get you in with the lung specialist.

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So then I went in with the lung specialist, they saw my CT images,

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they were like, no, we need to get you in with the biopsy.

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after about three and a half weeks, I finally was able to get into the hospital

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and they were able to do my biopsy.

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But it was just very stressful because it's like, I found something,

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you know, they found something and it's just, who's going to help me?

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How fast can I get seen?

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And the stress of not having the money to pay for the insurance and

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only having 30 days with CareLink.

Jovanni:

it's only for 30 days.

Mia:

no, it's not only for 30 days, but the emergency Care Link,

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they only grant it for 30 days.

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you can have Care Link and, you'll get seen.

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They have their primary doctors and specialty doctors within

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their network, but they bill you and go based off of your income.

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So then you just have to pay a monthly payment until you pay all of that off.

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if you stay on CareLink, You can get seen, but appointments take longer to

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get in, you only have a select range of specialty doctors, in my situation,

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since my diagnosis was a little bit more severe, they told me It wasn't

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recommended to stay on Carelink because I was going to be on a journey with

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treatments and doctors and scans

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And those scans are pricey.

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I mean, one of my scans that I do every few months are about 18, 000 and 19, 000.

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My treatments alone are about 18, 000 a month.

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So they didn't recommend Carelink because it was just going to

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be way too much for me to pay.

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Right.

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And then I couldn't pay if I, you know, how was I going to be working

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and having to pay that and then just trying to survive and pay

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bills and keep a roof over my head.

Jovanni:

Yeah, and my understanding is that CareLake is a program that's only

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available for residents in the city you're in, or in the county you're in.

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yeah.

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Available for people outside of the county and like I

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said, It's not a universal program.

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It's a program that's in your county.

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And like you said, they only have a selective range of doctors

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that will accept Care Link.

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and, yeah, you know, and like, you know, that just manifests, just, just go to show

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that the healthcare system that we live in is a healthcare system that is for profit.

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healthcare system that is to treat people it's not a healthcare system

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to prevent illness, it's a healthcare system to extract wealth, you know,

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Yeah, you

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know, from people.

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so how does that, affect the, you know, this, your conditions, how does

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it affect you, like your aspiration?

Mia:

Oh, Lordy, it affects it a lot.

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And I would have never known, you know, I've always heard, you know, that this is

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some, It's not right, or it's messed up, or it's rigged, and I never understood

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it until now currently going through it.

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So now, because of my condition, and because I'm relying on the state's

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Medicaid slash Medicare to cover my scans, cover my treatment, help cover

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my doctor visits, I can no longer work.

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And if I do work, then I'm afraid of them taking my insurance away.

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What would they do?

Mia:

I'm sorry?

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Why would they do that?

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Because according to them, if I work, then they see me as like, Oh, she's fine.

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Oh, she doesn't need the help.

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She, she can work.

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She can pay for her own insurance.

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And it's like, not fully, you know, I have side effects from my treatments, fatigue.

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it's been hard because before my diagnosis.

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Yeah, I had plans to open up a business.

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I had bigger goals in mind.

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And now since my diagnosis and I'm relying on the Medicaid or Medicare

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to get me by, I can't do nothing.

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I feel like my life is on hold.

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I can't apply for Apartments that I would like to live in on a better side of

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town, I'm restricted to where I can live, basically, because I can't, I can't work.

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I can't show that I make two to three times the rent because

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I'm depending on this insurance to help me get my treatment.

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So it's like, what do I do, you know?

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Try to work two, three jobs just to make insurance so I can live on the side of

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town that I want, or put my health first.

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But if I put my health first, you know, then my life is on hold.

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So, yeah, it's, it's a bummer.

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I mean, I would love to work.

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I would love to pursue school.

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I would love to pursue my, open up my business.

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But everything, I feel stuck.

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And that's the hard part.

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Yeah, I mean, you're not alone.

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like I said, in this country, there's more priority is given to overseas adventures.

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Both parties, which they have a monopoly on a political system.

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would rather spend, squander money abroad to control other people.

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, uh, overseas to control other people, to dictate to other people

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how, what systems they should have, how they should live, et cetera.

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Um, to destroy the nations and then then spend money to rebuild them again.

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you know?

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Yeah.

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Um, this, um, and I'm bringing this up 'cause this is a, this

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is a, uh, uh, a veteran podcast.

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So it's relevant to what you're, to what you're sharing with us here

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because, um, you know, just to throw some numbers around, uh, most of the

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people who listens to us are veterans.

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In this podcast, most, um, many of them are veterans of the, of the

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Iraq war, Afghan war, or some older veterans from back in the Vietnam era.

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Um, you know, and there's, there's still money being spent on, on those

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overseas ventures that weren't necessary.

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They weren't, they weren't, they weren't needed, you know, just because, just

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to expand American power abroad, um, at the, at the, uh, the cost or at

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the, uh, of the American people here.

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You know, um, just like in the Iraq war, the, uh, just throw some numbers

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around the Iraq war and, and the Afghanistan war cost, uh, 46 trillion.

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And it's still, and it's still counting.

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Um, and the Syrian war, the war in Syria, which is more recent, um, and

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the Iraq war part three, it cost 2.

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8 trillion.

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Um, it's still, it's still counting.

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The Ukraine war, um, up to this point, they have sent over a

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hundred billion dollars to Ukraine to maintain that war over there.

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Um, and, and now with the, the slaughter and the genocides happening in, in

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Israel, uh, the United States government is spending, uh, 17 billion dollars,

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uh, to keep that going, you know.

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Um, there's a huge contradiction, there's a huge contradiction.

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Meanwhile, you know, average Americans like yourself, you

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know, they're on a grind.

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They have to struggle every day, you know, working six, seven days a week,

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you know, just to make ends meet.

Mia:

Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Now, when you're, you're Now with your conditions kind of kneecapped

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you, kneecapped you to, um, to, to get ahead and, and you still have

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responsibilities apart from that.

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You still have family responsibilities that you still got to attend to that,

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you know, that, uh, that, yeah, you know, you're being, you're being stretched thin.

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And like you, millions of Americans are going through the same thing.

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Um, you know, you have, you have your, you're fortunate that you

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have a family network that, that supports you, but other people don't.

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You know, you found, you found a system, uh, you found somethings that, that can

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help you, but what would have happened if you wouldn't, uh, qualify for Medicaid?

Jovanni:

Um, you know.

Mia:

Yeah, if I didn't, if I didn't qualify, oh lord, I would really

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have to work, I would say at least three jobs to pay the insurance

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costs on top of my living expenses because there would just be no way.

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I mean, they were quoting me.

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Man, seven, eight hundred dollars a month on some insurances because every

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insurance I caught and I was telling them my situation, they're like, oh no, you

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have a pre existing condition and then the type of pre existing condition and it was

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just so heartbreaking because I'm like, man, you know, I'm already going through

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a lot to hear about my diagnosis and then I'm calling to get help and it's like,

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oh, well you have this, oh no, well we can help you but at this price and if I'm.

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You know, living by myself, I'm the only one providing for myself, paying

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all the bills, all the expenses that go in just living and surviving, and

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then to have an additional payment, and then to not even be able to work fully

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because you're tired, because you have the side effects from my treatment.

Mia:

It's very discouraging, it's very hard, but I would have to

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find a way to work at least three jobs to make that extra income.

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Because the income prior that I was, that I was doing my, my hairstylist

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career, it was enough to, to live.

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But now to pay extra expenses or pay out of pocket at doctor visits, like,

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where would I be getting that money?

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You know, that, and me having to work at least three jobs.

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I'm estimating just to cover all that, like, that would take away time from my

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family, take away time from, you know, raising my nieces, and I feel like I

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would just lose all the way around.

Jovanni:

Have you, have you, um, have you looked into, um, Um, the

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Affordable Care Act, you know, do you, do you qualify for that or anything?

Jovanni:

You

Mia:

know, I did, and um, I didn't qualify for that.

Mia:

You

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didn't qualify for that?

Jovanni:

No.

Jovanni:

Why?

Mia:

Because, um, I, my, my pre existing condition, I didn't qualify.

Mia:

Like, you could get it if you didn't have nothing wrong with you.

Mia:

Hmm.

Mia:

Yeah.

Jovanni:

I

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was so upset because I was just like, man, like, I thought I was here to help.

Jovanni:

Exactly, they marketed it as like, it was like the best

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thing since sliced bread, right?

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But there was so Yeah.

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And then

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I was hearing from other friends that those that did try to get

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the Affordable Care Act, a lot of doctors didn't accept the insurance.

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So it's like they, them too, were also left with like a few.

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A small range of doctors to choose from, or a small range of specialty

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doctors, so it's like, it only helped them to a certain extent.

Mia:

Yeah, so that was a bummer, a big bummer.

Jovanni:

Yeah, I mean, I mean, other nations, I mean, the United States is the,

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the, the wealthiest country in the world.

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Americans are, are roughly 5% of the global population.

Jovanni:

Right.

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Uh, but we dominate at least over 25% of, uh, we consume over

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25% of the world's resources.

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Right.

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So we, so we consume more resource, you know, we, we generate

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more, more wealth, uh, than any country in the world of our size.

Jovanni:

Right.

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You know?

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Mm-Hmm.

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. Yet, yet the wealth, uh, that we generate, which comes to which,

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which wealth is wealth, is.

Jovanni:

It's transferable, it's transferred, right?

Jovanni:

And wealth comes from, from, from labor.

Jovanni:

That's where wealth comes from, right?

Jovanni:

You know, we talk about Jeff Bezos and all these people, right?

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But, you know, he owns Amazon, but Amazon wouldn't be able to do anything

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if it wasn't for people laboring, moving around and stuff like that.

Jovanni:

So that's where, that's where Jeff Bezos wealth comes from.

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It comes from the people that are down in the warehouses, that are

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moving stuff around for him, that are delivering packages and stuff.

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That's where wealth comes from.

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It comes from labor.

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You know, not just because this person had a big, great idea, right?

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Labor comes, that's what, that's where it comes from.

Jovanni:

So we have all this wealth.

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This country generates all this wealth.

Jovanni:

Yet, uh, the priority, um, in, in every election is to cut taxes, right?

Jovanni:

Now taxes, when you cut taxes, like Donald Trump, for example,

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his last administration, right, he, he did the largest, um, uh,

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tax cut, you know, in, in history.

Jovanni:

Right.

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And that's usually marketed to us as a good thing because we got less

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taxes coming on and stuff like that.

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But what happens is, right, that, that it hollows.

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It puts the country at a deficit and it hollows the country out.

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So the country still needs funds to function.

Jovanni:

Where do they get the funds from, right?

Jovanni:

They will start, they cut services to get the funds to maintain the, uh, the,

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the, how the government, how the, uh, the country operates to pay salaries,

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et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, right?

Jovanni:

That means that poor people or working class people, right,

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get less of the services, right?

Jovanni:

Every time there, every time tax get cut to the, to the most wealthiest among us.

Jovanni:

That's just one example, right?

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And there are countries that are less wealthier than the Americans,

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the United States, right?

Jovanni:

But yet they have a health care system that covers everybody, you know?

Jovanni:

People are less sicker than we are.

Jovanni:

Um, so yeah, it's a big, huge contradictions that we're living in,

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and yep, most people aren't aware, most people are still captivated by the

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two party system, you know, they argue against each other because, you know,

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I support, um, the Dems and I support the Reps, you know, but when it comes

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down to it, both All these parties are working against their constituents,

Jovanni:

working against their own people.

Mia:

Definitely, I agree with that.

Mia:

And I just don't understand why so much money is getting sent for here, for that,

Mia:

for wars when we have so many people here in the United States that just need help.

Jovanni:

Exactly.

Mia:

They simply just need a little help.

Mia:

And it's like, how are we getting turned down?

Mia:

How are we having to live so restricted?

Mia:

And yet there's so much money going elsewhere.

Mia:

It's sad.

Jovanni:

So Mia, so how do, um, what do you see yourself now?

Jovanni:

How do we, how do we go from there?

Mia:

How do I see myself now?

Mia:

I'm just hoping to get over this, over this diagnosis so I don't have

Mia:

to be handicapped by the system.

Mia:

I want to get back to working.

Mia:

I want to be able to go open my business.

Mia:

and just live without feeling afraid of like losing something that I so need.

Mia:

So yeah, I'm just, I'm hoping and I'm praying to get over this one day.

Jovanni:

Yeah, well, and I mean, and, and what you're, what you're

Jovanni:

needing, what you're asking is not something, um, astronomical.

Jovanni:

It's something basic, you know.

Mia:

Yeah.

Jovanni:

Right to live, right?

Mia:

Yes.

Mia:

You're, you're,

Jovanni:

you're, you're, you're.

Jovanni:

You're born and raised a citizen of this country, right?

Jovanni:

You deserve to, to, to be, um, you know, to be franchised, to be put,

Jovanni:

to be a part of this, you know, this country, and, you know, and the people

Jovanni:

that you put up there, they're supposed to be there to represent you, right?

Jovanni:

They're supposed to take care of you.

Jovanni:

Um, to, to, to not necessarily take care of you, that has a negative connotation

Jovanni:

in the United States, but to pretty much attend the, uh, to represent you.

Jovanni:

Represent your, represent your needs and represent your, um,

Jovanni:

um, you know, your well being.

Jovanni:

Yes.

Jovanni:

Um, yeah, thank you, um, for sharing.

Jovanni:

Thank

Mia:

you for having me.

Jovanni:

Um, any, any last comments, um, that you would

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like to share before we depart?

Mia:

You know, I would just like to say to anybody who's in my

Mia:

situation to not give up and just stay positive, even when it's hard.

Jovanni:

Exactly.

Jovanni:

Even when

Mia:

it's hard there, there will be a way to get out of it.

Jovanni:

Absolutely.

Jovanni:

Absolutely.

Jovanni:

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Thank you, Mia.

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Stay positive.

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Thank you.

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You'll get through this.

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um, know that you'll, that you'll, you'll get through this and, uh,

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